Expected 1080 Ti performance

PoW Mining AE
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But the AE process invoking the solver doesn’t know how to parse its output.
Furthermore, the solver needs to update the header roughly every 3 seconds to produce new micro blocks.

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Roughly, how many AE can you expect to mine per 24 h with 1080 Ti?

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To make a computation example, if we assume you make 3 cuckoo attempts per second.
Then, with the current difficulty, you will on average get about 0.2 blocks per 24 hours.

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And each block is 473 AE? (According to http://aeknow.org). If that is correct it seems extremely high.

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The reward is adjusted according to an inflation curve - it is discussed in Block reward and block time

The highest reward is 473 for a while here in the beginning if I remember correctly.

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Thanks for very fast reply! I know there’s a high inflation the first year and that the difficulty will be increasing (hopefully).

How does the 2080 Ti compare, has anyone managed to mine with that card as of now?

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I am getting my 2080 RTX Ti on Monday and will test it out.

Generally speaking, I need to test the new 1.0.1 release. Will check if this fixes the issue with all the hashpower going to waste 8x 1080 GTX and no Blocks mined “successfully” since launch + 2h.

I would hold off on larger investments at the moment.

If you estimate the current Graphs per Second of the network there are huge farms or a huge number of people mining. Quite different than most mainnet launches e.g. Ethereum where miners made thousands in the first days of the network at an exchange rate that practically didn’t exist. Then again - orphaned Blocks are rewarded on Ethereum which is not the case with Aeternity. So it is a winner take-all.

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Tromp says the miner code is buggy for the 2080: https://www.grin-forum.org/t/possible-cuda-bug/1338

The 1.0.1 is not improving mining only network connectivity (so you might get blocks faster thus improving your chances…). Working on improving mining, but it means changing things around in non-trivial ways.

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Thanks for the info, will probably wait until 2080 issues are solved before investing. Also, how are miners supposed to pay for electricity etc. when there is no way to liquidate the coins (or is there)?

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Exchanges are coming.

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The bug has been fixed. 2080 cards can mine again…

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Wow, that was fast! Are the mining performance similar on 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti?

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See here for other Cuckoo variants:

Cuckoo Cycle runs at same speed as Cuckatoo Cycle…

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Did I understand right:

if I solve for example:
./mean29-generic -h R4nNmL0Xjir09QswGFtqc7wwyuk10OfI23OlwznvsAw=yYJP/pjF9b8= -n 137 -t 483

and push the solution, and get " Failed to meet target"

is it same as I solve, as requested
./mean29-generic -h R4nNmL0Xjir09QswGFtqc7wwyuk10OfI23OlwznvsAw=yYJP/pjF9b8= -n 0 -t 483

or not? As @aemin asks

Because if I start over and try to run over and over:
./mean29-generic -h R4nNmL0Xjir09QswGFtqc7wwyuk10OfI23OlwznvsAw=yYJP/pjF9b8= -n 0 -t 483

I never get a solution, because I have always the same results, hmm or not. What of my thinking is wrong?

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I have rewritten some of your code @tromp and it works great on epoch. And parse_generation_result:448 accept the inputs of any solved solution I push. Not yet published here: https://github.com/Zwilla/BitCaine5_aeternity_miner

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Thanks for fast replies. Just to double check: since this will be solo-mining, you have to be “lucky” and mine an entire block to get any payouts? In other words, using a single 2080 Ti, can you expect to mine roughly 1 block every 3 days at current difficulty, but also risk mining for many days without any rewards?

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extra_args: “-r -1"

will loop for ever

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Is this the reason why I always get the same solution??? (push need information)

Solution aae9b d3caeb db7686 168f946 203daac 3e812be 4603264 5320126 6d28244 7014947 776a712 7a6a4a6 8b44de4 8c25dd0 949d487 a2f253d a99edb5 b9e6dc1 ba6db48 cc609fb d745ea9 e218d20 109bf7b2 1103fb2c 1158febb 125c3a3a 12813d98 13cd0508 154e662d 1658ef1d 16fc2357 188b744f 192c2b03 19813277 1a26f3b7 1aa26ce8 1b18e2fa 1ccca739 1dab39dc 1e0b29cf 1ea4fed8 1edee859
Solution aae9b d3caeb db7686 168f946 203daac 3e812be 4603264 5320126 6d28244 7014947 776a712 7a6a4a6 8b44de4 8c25dd0 949d487 a2f253d a99edb5 b9e6dc1 ba6db48 cc609fb d745ea9 e218d20 109bf7b2 1103fb2c 1158febb 125c3a3a 12813d98 13cd0508 154e662d 1658ef1d 16fc2357 188b744f 192c2b03 19813277 1a26f3b7 1aa26ce8 1b18e2fa 1ccca739 1dab39dc 1e0b29cf 1ea4fed8 1edee859
Solution aae9b d3caeb db7686 168f946 203daac 3e812be 4603264 5320126 6d28244 7014947 776a712 7a6a4a6 8b44de4 8c25dd0 949d487 a2f253d a99edb5 b9e6dc1 ba6db48 cc609fb d745ea9 e218d20 109bf7b2 1103fb2c 1158febb 125c3a3a 12813d98 13cd0508 154e662d 1658ef1d 16fc2357 188b744f 192c2b03 19813277 1a26f3b7 1aa26ce8 1b18e2fa 1ccca739 1dab39dc 1e0b29cf 1ea4fed8 1edee859
Solution aae9b d3caeb db7686 168f946 203daac 3e812be 4603264 5320126 6d28244 7014947 776a712 7a6a4a6 8b44de4 8c25dd0 949d487 a2f253d a99edb5 b9e6dc1 ba6db48 cc609fb d745ea9 e218d20 109bf7b2 1103fb2c 1158febb 125c3a3a 12813d98 13cd0508 154e662d 1658ef1d 16fc2357 188b744f 192c2b03 19813277 1a26f3b7 1aa26ce8 1b18e2fa 1ccca739 1dab39dc 1e0b29cf 1ea4fed8 1edee859
Solution aae9b d3caeb db7686 168f946 203daac 3e812be 4603264 5320126 6d28244 7014947 776a712 7a6a4a6 8b44de4 8c25dd0 949d487 a2f253d a99edb5 b9e6dc1 ba6db48 cc609fb d745ea9 e218d20 109bf7b2 1103fb2c 1158febb 125c3a3a 12813d98 13cd0508 154e662d 1658ef1d 16fc2357 188b744f 192c2b03 19813277 1a26f3b7 1aa26ce8 1b18e2fa 1ccca739 1dab39dc 1e0b29cf 1ea4fed8 1edee859
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So your software can be mined? Is the built-in development cost?

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If you pass a different N to the miner via -n N it means you will solve a different graph.

But any other value than N=0 will not work (nor will any usage of -r) since this will place a nonce at a place where the PoW verification will not expect it. We are working on updating the miner code to extend its nonces to 64 bits and place it in the right spot.

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