请在此尽情分享对中文社区完善,扩建的一切建议

Hello everyone,

I am creating this topic so the Chinese community has a direct communication channel with the æternity communications team. I will be happy to hear your concerns and suggestions. Posts in Chinese language are welcome, but if possible - please write in English.

Best,
Vlad


为了使得中文社区与aeternity团队有一个直接的交流渠道,我建立了这个讨论主题。
我迫切想了解您的想法和建议。英文是上佳之选,但中英文均可。

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Everyone knows that the Chinese community is the largest community of AE, but the telegraph group has dropped from 8,000 at the beginning of this year to the current 5200. The loss of personnel is very serious. In addition, the number of WeChat groups and qq group is also declining. The members repeat very much and most of the people on WeChat and qq have very big complaints. They are very dissatisfied with the current price and domestic community operations. As a fan of AE, we are obliged to stand up and solve this problem.

Community suggestion

  1. Establish a domestic community management group, and members of the community management group are jointly established by the official and community members.
  2. The community management group takes over all the existing domestic WeChat group QQ group Weibo. Manage WeChat Weibo and QQ’s daily order and answer questions from members.
  3. The team gives community managers the appropriate rewards for sustainable development.
  4. The community administrator is responsible for the promotion of official activities, the translation of official information, the release of information on the progress of various projects, the establishment of domestic developers and official bridges, and the recommendation of excellent projects for official incubation.
    Finally, I hope to see how many people agree with the advice! As a fan of AE’s loyalty, please cast your valuable vote. Now that the community is collapsing, we have to save ourselves!

众所周知,华人社区是最大的AE社区,但电报组已从今年年初的8,000人减少到目前的5200人。人员流失非常严重。此外,微信群和QQ群的数量也在下降。成员们非常重复,微信和QQ的大多数人都有很大的抱怨。他们对目前的价格和国内社区运作非常不满意。作为AE的粉丝,我们不得不站起来解决这个问题。

社区建议

建立国内社区管理小组,社区管理小组成员由官方和社区成员共同建立。
社区管理小组接管了现有的国内微信群QQ群微博。管理微信微博和QQ的日常订单,并回答会员提出的问题。
该团队为社区管理者提供可持续发展的适当奖励。
社区管理员负责官方活动的推广,官方信息的翻译,各种项目进展信息的发布,国内开发商和官方桥梁的建立,以及官方孵化项目的推荐。
最后,我希望看到有多少人同意这个建议!作为AE忠诚度的粉丝,请投下您的宝贵投票。现在社区正在崩溃,我们必须自救!

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Hello ae team, I am a member of Chinese ae community. According to what I saw and heard, Chinese community of ae is now in a confused situation. We need more powerful leaders to … I suggested to add another one or two guy to stand for ae team in China, if we only get one leader the rights will be too centralized.

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Vlad,Tina以及AE团队,你们好,我是中国社区的大树。前两天,我在微博上发表了一篇名为《致AE社区——细数金刚狼的几点不够格!》的文章,引起了社区的强烈反响。现在这篇文章的阅读了已经达到了50万人次,文章的火爆程度说明了一些问题,也表达了中国投资者对于目前AE社区建设的一些意见和忧虑。在这里附上文章链接,欢迎大家查看!https://m.weibo.cn/status/4406401944037026?

必须声明,我发声的本意是让金刚狼有所警醒,将社区建设好,于我并没有什么私利。但如果因此造成国内AE社区四分五裂、各方互相攻击诋毁的局面,就违背了我的本意,这也是我最不想看到的。综合个人意愿和AE团队意见,如果没有更加适合国内AE社区管理员位置的人选,那我收回我之前的观点,大家就权当看了场闹剧。但我希望金刚狼认识到,国内社区是需要维护的,做社区绝不是一劳永逸的事情。其实,我很不愿意卷入这种类似的纠纷之中,徒增烦劳,还落个破坏社区共识的罪名,但理性来讲,这种社区的内耗会加速共识的破灭,陷入糟糕的恶性循环中去。我看到大家,过于情绪化地去评判这件事,甚至还使用侮辱、谩骂性质的语言去攻击个人。我希望大家能团结起来,积极参与社区建设,不要再做过多无谓的内耗!

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大家好,关于金刚狼的问题我想说几点个人的看法。
金刚狼现在看主要的工作还是两点,一是翻译官方的文章,二是微信群电报群跟论坛的管理。
首先,金刚狼的文章一直有一个问题,基本上是机翻,语句相当不通顺,如果是自愿者用十来分钟做出来的可以接受,但是他作为领着官方工资的每次写出的都是这种水平的文章实在不应该,这也导致了ae不论是技术还是非技术文章阅读量极其低的原因之一,不知道团队里面有没有同时会中文跟英文的,如果有的话应该很容易可以看出这一点。
其次,关于社群的管理,微信群踢人,电报群撤回,官方论坛删帖,已经到了人神共愤的地步了。一个良好的社区有点反对意见是很正常的,活跃的社群往往是多种思想的碰撞,但金刚狼管理下的社群,完全没有言论自由,把敢说话活跃的都踢没了,剩下的都是不说话潜水的,剩下的这些真的是没意见的吗?一部分敢怒不敢言,另一部分就是ae死活都不关他们事的态度,这样把真正的粉丝赶走真的好吗?
再者,关于踢人或者删帖的标准问题,全部都以金刚狼自己的个人主观意愿来,他一边可以叫人说任何话,一边却是另外一套做法,这样导致ae的社群分崩离析完全没有凝聚力。
最后,自从金刚狼成为官方一员后,给人的感觉就是拿着工资不做事,混吃混喝过日子。文章翻译水平没有任何提高,理论上应该作为社区跟团队之间的沟通通道,但却反其道而行,因为所有的沟通渠道他都是管理员,无论微信,电报或者论坛,所有反对他或者危及他这份工作的内容,在他眼里都是眼中钉,肉中刺。处之而后快,在他管理下,社区的意见跟建议都去不到团队那里。
看到AE社区发展成这样真的很心痛,一个人的权力过大就会变成专权,希望团队重新审视金刚狼现在手上的权力跟所做的贡献对不对等。如果一个社区的领导人不能服众,如何能带领社区。

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目前中国在职的社区管理员和大使都不合格,建议再增加一个中国社区管理员和一个中国ae大使,瑞波早期在中国就是这么做的,瑞波这两个管理员一直极力推广国内社区,对接基金和大公司,解答社区各种问题,所以xrp在中国做的非常成功。如果让瑞波社区管理员做ae社区管理员那也是非常不错的,我可以帮着联系他们。

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AE officials of respect, I am an investor in the Chinese community, for China’s administrators MAKR really make people angry, the Chinese market administrator don’t know how to AE, do practical work, get free salary, don’t know how to maintain community, AE China chaos again begged AE official change China’s administrator, hire marketing manager, my English is not very good, thank you

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It is recommended that the team halve AE in advance. Everybody support me.

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以下信息为代提交:
提议人微信昵称:银杏叶子
微信号:wxid_jvxe53mc1zd122

1,ae挖矿增发数量过大在当时行情状况,实属无奈之举。但是现在看来,数量太大严重损伤早期投资人的利益,目前主网趋于完善,挖矿稳定,每天挖矿产量市场无法承接,导致价格上越来越弱,很多投资人失去耐心和信心。要做的改变,POS权益投票减少增发数量,表明官方关注市场而不是漠视的态度,让投资人恢复信心

2,为了ae持有人更有凝聚力,社区更有归属感,建议设立ae节点,部分抽水币作为奖励基金

3,众说周知的原因,希望中国社区几个领导人不计前嫌,抛除个人利益以大局为重,多沟通,多推动,在其位谋其职,多做为ae宣传营销发展有益的事,不营销的社区要他何用?

4,官方团队放下高高在上的态度,多倾听社区成员好的建议,而不是一言不合就踢人,删帖。得民心者得天下,民心所向,再大困难,都能抗过

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AE团队好,我是中国ae社区的成员,目前中国社区几乎所有人都对AE团队很失望。第一:AE巨量增发严重损害投资人利益,建议制定AE销毁方案。第二:AE中国社区没有管理人,目前的管理人只会谷歌翻译文章,然后发出来。其他根本没有什么作为,这也是导致AE中国社区成员大量损失原因之一,建议在中国寻找重量级合作伙伴和代言人,重新建立中国社区对AE的信任和希望!

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There are many Chinese users who are not able to use telegram and they may have intended to reply to someone and sent an article. Including ae forum forum.aeternity.com posts. By the robot ruthlessly shut into the black room.

For example, superlan, a member of AE China community, is a supporter of AE

(The above news comes from the Chinese community:AE-张佳宁)

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这建议不错,希望大家都能来这里为ae发展献计献策,加油!

I don’t think any amount of publicity is as good as an engaging game. After all, now AE publicity efforts are limited, major information sites are hard to see AE figure. As soon as possible to land one or several small games based on AE, can increase the activity of members within the community, can also relatively quickly increase the popularity of AE community.

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建議:1,官方討論增發帶來的總量擴大問題,提出質押或銷毀等修正方案;
2,針對前三年挖礦產出量過大的問題,提出鎖定、質押或銷毀等改善方案;
3,每月發布開發報告,針對當月工作進展,生態建設,尤其是其他在主鏈上開發的項目情況的介紹;
4,每季度或半年,官方團隊在社區開展答疑活動,增強社區互動;
5,增加對中國社區運營的考核指標,同時不做過多限制,採用開放式,可上可下,能者居之。
謝謝!

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vald先生:
您好!我是一个持有ae的粉丝,下面将部分ae社区成员关注的焦点问题向你反馈:
1、挖矿数量问题。在主网上线之前,金刚狼在社区曾称新增挖矿数量为500万个ae,而且会经过ae持币者投票通过,然而主网上线确定挖矿数量为2.6个亿,数量增加几十倍,使众多前期投资者利益受损。
2、bri问题。bri投票发起之后,社区反响强烈,bri的币给团队,而其他ae持有者却不能享受到bri,同样都是持有ae,普通小散户却享受不到任何权益。此点社区曾多次反映,官方团队却没任何回应。
3、社区管理非常严格,很多社区成员有不同声音就被踢出群,长期以来,没有团结发展壮大社区,反而很多社区成员由粉丝转为路人,由路人转为黑。
4、基于ae上的代币转账功能,中国人是非常勤奋和积极努力的,而且区块链人才非常多,但很多团队没有选择在ae上开发aepp,是受在ae上发行和转账代币的限制,因为只有代币可以自由转账,开发团队才能在市场上筹措到资金,资金和利益的驱动可以让aepp迅速发展。
谢谢!

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Hello everyone.

Thank you all for your suggestions and comments, although I have not yet been able to go though all of them.

I completely agree that there is much to be done to expand the Chinese community. I personally think that Mark is doing a great job as a community manager. However, he is precisely that - a community manager. He is not a marketeer. If the goal is to increase the promotional activities in China, then we do need more community members to step up and offer their services.

We have recently announced the Community Building Campaigns (CBC) initiative that allows anyone to propose activities that promote æternity and get the funding they need to do so (including fees for their services). So far we have not received an application from China. The reason could be language, but anyone in China who is interested in supporting æternity must be able to communicate with the æternity team in English (just like Mark does). So, I urge you all to to come up with a proposal and post a CBC. It is easy.

If there is nothing concrete that you are offering, and if there is no one willing to take the lead, we are just brainstorming here.

With all that said, we have reached out a few marketing companies in China in order to check what promotional services they can provide us. I will keep you informed about the results.

Regarding the mining reward and the BRI -> after next month’s hardfork, the community will be able to use an aepp that allows anyone to propose a governance vote. You will all be enabled to launch a vote on the inflation curve and support it with your AE tokens. I will be glad to participate with my AE tokens.

Regarding Mark’s community management style - there are surely posts that he has to create and abusive users that we don’t want to spam the channels. His job is to keep the discussion civil. He is (as well as any other aeternity community manager) following the Community Terms and Conditions. Any member of the community that disregards these simple rules will be warned and if he does not change his attitude - kicked/banned.

Finally, I am happy to discuss an “a domestic community management group”. Are there any members of the community that are willing to join it? Also, I see that an aeternity-based game is mentioned above. Anyone willing to create it? We can support any such efforts.

That’s all for now. Thank you again for being active members of the aeternity community!

Best,
Vlad

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Thanks vlad, many of you at CBC have seen this promotion. But I’m sure most people don’t quite understand what it is. There are many reasons. What are his limitations? Or is there a specific process? Where should I get the form and submit it? What else needs to be done? When launching an activity in China, you should let people know how to participate at first sight, not how great it is at first sight.

liushao

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I came up with a good idea these days. It seems that my Aechina.io can better serve AE. But I may need to apply for some service fees, and I may not have the time to do much while managing the community. Part of me needs to invite others to participate at a cost.

LiuShao

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Previously, I was free to promote ae, but I couldn’t find many friends like me.

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